I would like feedback from anyone who has used or is using the dry stripping floor machines.
You should look into the BOOST autoscrubbers that can strip floors using only water!! Clarke Equipment is the manufacturer. Im a rep for them. I demoed four hospitals that had 8 or more coats of finish and stripped it all off using just a pad and water. This machine is blowing everyone out the water. Go to youtube.com and type Clarke BOOST in the search box. Watch the video, you'll be impressed.
I am having a demo next week for a dry stripping machine that also uses just water from a company called square scrub. I will post follow up on my thoughts on how well it works
I hope I am not too late.... Whatever you do, do not buy Clarke's Boost!
Unless you are stripping a floor with no wax and is so clean you could eat off it, this machines does NOT strip dry, no matter what the Clarke rep may tell you. We unfortunatley bought several last year, and have had nothing but problems.
The machine is unbelievably fragile, and high maintenance. The velcro head falls off. It has numerous design flaws: The water tank fill hole spills water all over the motor and the batteries, blowing motors, and instead of fixing the water fill tank issue, they fix the problem by putting silicone on the motor head. The square head is a bad idea... the isolator stud mounts (about 12) constantly break; the bearing in the head also regularly needs replaced. We have had serious parts break for no reason. A fuse relay was cracked inside; one of our motors needed replaced the 3rd month we were using it.
It also leaves wheel marks in the freshly scrubbed floor... no one can answer us as to why, and you can't get them out.
Their dry strip "technology" does not work. This machine was poorly designed and poorly constructed.
We will be testing other auto-scrubber within the next 2 month. I will try to remember to let you know what we have found.
In reply to JannetGuppie:
I have seen several demo's of the boost machine too. My husband repairs custodial equipment for a local school district and they bought several last year and have had nothing but trouble. I could not afford to get any new equipment this past year so I did not purchase any like I wanted. Thanks for small favors. I did have great sucuess with dry stripping another way. I ordered pads made by 3M. They are SPP pads made for hard wood floors. They work great for scrubbing and recoating. I am currently on a 3 year rotation for stripping and we scrub and recoat everything but the school that is due to be stripped. These work great. Keep water applied to the floor to a minimum and they work great. We also use then to tough up floors during the holiday. I now order more SPP pads than stripping pads. I am also able to get them in 13" size to fit my scrubbers and it make a fast touch up for halls. You can scrub your halls with the SPP pad and put down 2-3 coats of wax in one school holiday. It has been gread. No new equipment but much better results than the boost machine. My husband wishes they would have gone with route because he works on the boost mancines all the time. They are a big pain. Also, the pads are very costly and you can't substitute anything eles for them. Try contacting your local rep. to see if they offer these pads. They have become a great hit in our area. The are a great cost and time saver.
I am on the development team for the square sqrub. puttin in some late hours finalizing the new training video for the EBG-20 by square scrub.
There is really only two companies that have invested in dry stripping technology, Clarke and Square Scrub. First, to clear something up, there is not a machine out there that strips the floor down to the bare tile like chemical stripping does. What dry "stripping" does is something much better. It removes top layers of finish and exposes the clean and smooth layers. This is better than slury stripping, as I like to call it, for many reasons.
1. better surface to apply finish to
2. first couple of coats count, and are not just absorbed into the floor.
3. Use less coats of finish, when you don't start from scratch you don't need as many.
If you talk to users of the Clarke Boost machine you will get very mixed results. I have used it a great deal and have very mixed emotions about it still. It is not balaced as well as it should be so edges don't turn out like I would like, and it must be used with water. The square scrub was created with removing floor finish in mind. It is balanced better therefore better pad pressure, and the motor is geared in such a way that it can be used with no water at all. In fact it is recomended to not use water ever. You can see a clip of it here ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHx_9Zxnrro
As part of the R&D team I have a great insight to the potential savings that machine can bring. to put it simply you can save 50% or more from whatever you are spending now, gaurenteed. And my consulting firm, IAT Consulting Group, can teach users of the EBG-20 to get over 75-85% saveings! If you want some information let me know by e-mail and I can send you a spreadsheet that can do cost comps between the EBG and traditional stripping meathods.
Any more questions let me know. Also if anyone is interested in good pricing of an EBG-20, let me know, I can get you a good deal.
In reply to Chris Terrell:
Also I did the demo for jjd28, even though he has not gotten back on here, I can tell you he loved it! Ask him lol
Used the square scrub and did love it, was able to get a large amount of square footage done quickly and without a mess. I would reccoment this to anyone, I am getting at least one and hope to add more later
How can I get additional information or a demo on this dry stripping machine
In reply to RogerT:
yes, I would be happy to help you get a demo of the machine at one of your facilities.
e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org and we can get in touch.
In reply to texas_clean:
What is an SPP pad?
In reply to walkngdman:
i looked it up and found this on 3m's wid site
i am not sure if this is the rignt.
In reply to Barry Stanley:
yes, that is correct. it varies in size depending on the machine that it is being used with.
As far as I am concerened 3m makes the best SPP pad out there, at least by my testing.
Thank you for being honest, that it is a ultra deep scrub and not an actual stripping.
If anybody would sell a machine on only using abrasives and water and then call it stripping would be very wrong.
No way you can get the old sealer/polish of completely and especially not in pores, grouts etc.
Thanks again. T
In reply to Amano Pioneer Eclipse:
indeed you are correct. There is nothing that can remove the finish from the pores of tile for example, unless it had a chemical agent involved.
The best part about using a dry system over a wet one, is you are getting a better prepared floor to lay finish onto.
1. after scrubbing, you are left with a smooth, even, clean surface to apply coats onto. I am sure many notice that the first coat of finish applies to the floor is dull, and lacks depth. That is not only because it is the first coat, but much of that first coat has to be absorbed into the tiles pores. When you use a dry system to prepare your floor, your first coat of finish is more like your 2nd or 3rd. This because you have a good even base to begin with.
2. Depth and Shiny Factor: for a floor to have that "Wet Glass" look a couple of things need to happen. First, you all know what I am talking about with that "Wet Glass" look, where the floor is so shiny and so smooth that you almost want to touch it to make sure it is dry.
To achieve this, the floor needs to be Clean, & Level. When light passes through the finish you want it to not be distorted by debris in the finish, and you also don't want it to be distorted by an uneven base. Dry systems of removing finish give you that good base for the light to reflect back through that can at times be tricky to achieve otherwise.
For my company, in 2009 we maintained around 10 million sqaure feet of vct. We purchased the sqaure scrub and found it was not effective against deep scuff marks, chair marks, and remove old dried stripper mixed with finish from previous companies. Maybe some advice on how to use properly or advice to decrease user error would be helpful. also, we have use the sqaure scrub to sand wood floor finish.
please give advice on removing scuffs and old stripped mixed into finish.
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